Wednesday, April 27, 2011

የማህበረ ቅዱሳን አባላት በአንድ ጉዳይ ለሁለት መከፈላቸው ተሰማ - Read PDF

ማህበረ ቅዱሳን ተሃድሶዎችን ለማሳደድ 100000 ብር ያስፈልጋኛል ብሎ ገቢ ለማሰባሰብ እየተዘጋጀ ባለበት ባሁኑ ወቅት ጊዜያችንን እና ገንዘባችንን በማይጠቅም ነገር ላይ ማጥፋት የለብንም የሚሉ አባላት ከውስጥ ተቃውሟቸውን እያነሱ ነው። እነዚህ ተቃዋሚዎች ምክንያታቸውን ሲያቃርቡ በቅርቡ የያዙት ተሃድሶን የማሳደድ ፕሮግራም በሕዝቡ ዘንድ ተቀባይነት ማጣቱና ወጤት ካለማስገኝቱም በላይ በተቃራኒው የኢትዮጵያ ኦርቶዶክስ ቤ/ ክርስቲያንን ሕዝብ ለሁለት እየከፈለ ከፍተኛ አለመተማመንን ፈጥሯል ይላሉ።

ብዛት ያላቸው ምዕመናን ደግሞ ቄሶችና ሰባኪዎች ተሃድሶ ከሆኑ እኛስ ከነርሱ በምን እንበልጣለን? ይህ ጉዳይ የካህናቱ ስለሆነ ያናንተን አልባልታ መስማት አንፈልግም በማለት ከፍተኛ ተቃውሞአቸውን በማህብረ ቅዱሳን ላይ አሰምተዋል እያሰሙም ነው።
በዋናነት ግን ማህበረ ቅዱሳንን ለሁለት ለመከፈል ያበቃው የገረገራ ጊዮርጊስ ጉዳይ ነው። ባለፈው እንደ ዘገብነው የሰሜን ወሎ ስራ አስኪአጅን ጨምሮ አራቱ የማህበረ ቅዱሳን አባላት ኢየሱስ ክርስቶስን ሲያሳድዱ ሰንብተው ሲመለሱ የጌታ ቁጣ እንዳገኛቸውና አጥንታቸው ተለቅሞ እስኪቀበር ድረስ እንደተቀጡ ይታወቃል። በዚህ የመቂት ወረዳ የማሳደድ ፕሮግራማቸው ወንጌልን እንሰብካለን ብለው ሕዝብን በማታለል ወንጌልን ሲቃወሙ ሰንበተዋል። ሦስት ዲያቆናትን ሁለት ቄሶችን፤ አንድ የቅዳሴ መምህርና የመምሪያ ኃላፊን ከሥራቸው አፈናቅለዋል ሕዝብ በድንጋይ እንዲወግራቸው ቅሥቀሣ አድርገዋል በዚህም ምክንያት እነዚህ አገልጋዮች በገንዛ ሐገራቸው እንዳይወጡ እንዳይገቡ በመንገድ ላይ እንኳ እንዳይታዩ ተደርገዋል. ዘመድ እና ወገን እንዲአይገላቸው ማህበረ ቅዱሳን በመቀስቀሱ ከፍተኛ ስደት ደርሶባቸው ዛሬ በሥጋት ላይ ይገኛሉ።
ጌታ ግን የመውጊያውን ብረት ብትቃወመው ባንተ ይብስብሃል እንዳለው የመውጊያውን ብረት የተቃወሙት አራት የማህበረ ቅዱሳን ባላት በመውጊያው ተወግተው ወደ ማይመለሱበት ዓለም ሄደዋል። ይህ ነገር ግን የገረገራን ሕዝብና ማህብረ ቅዱሳንን ለሁለት ከፈለ። ግማሹ የገረገራ ሕዝብ የማህበረ ቅዱሳን አባላት ኃጢአተኛ ናቸው ቅዱሳንን ስላሳደዱ ወዲያው ፍርዳቸውን አገኙ እነዚህ ቄሶች እውነተኛ የኢየሱስ ክርስቶስ አገልጋዮች ነበሩ እናም ወደ ቦታቸው መመለስ አለባቸው በማለት በመከራከር ላይ ይገኛል።
ግማሹ የድጋይ ልብ የያዘው የገረገራ ሕዝብ ግን በነዚህ ሰዎች ምክንያት ነው ወንድሞቻችን አደጋ የደረሰባቸውና እነዚህን ቄሶች መበቀል አለብን ብሎ ቄሶችን ለመግደል በፈለግ ላይ ነው። ለንስሐ መዘጋጀት ይቅርታ መጠየቅ ሲገባ እንደገና ቄሶችን ከተሰደዱበት ፈልጎ ለመግደል መሞከር በጣም የሚያሳዝን ነው። ጌታ የሚገላችሁ ሁሉ እግዚአብሔርን እንደሚያገለግል የሚመስልበት ጊዜ ይመጣል ያለው ቃል እየተፈጸመ ነው። ነገሩን ላስተዋለው ግን ይህ ጉዳይ ለማህበረ ቅዱሳን የንስሐ ጥሪ መሆኑን ነው። ኢየሱስን በማሳደድ አንድም ሰው አልተጠቀመም።
የገረገራ ሕዝብ የመከፋፈሉን ያህል የማህበረ ቅዱሳን አባላትም ጥቂቶቹ የወንድሞቻቸው በአደጋ መሞት በጥሞና ሥራቸውን እንዲመረምሩ አድርጓቸዋል። ማንን እያገለገልን ይሆን? የሚሉ አባላት በዝተዋል እነዚህ እግዚአብሔር የድንጋዩን ልብ አውጥቶ የሥጋና የመንፈስ ልብ የሰጣቸው ናቸው በሃይማኖት ብትኖሩ ራሳችሁን መርምሩ እንደተባለው ራሳቸውን የሚመረምሩ እየበዙ ናቸው
አንዳዶች ይህ ቅጣት ከእግዚአብሔር የተላከልን ማስጠንቀቂያ ነው እና ነገሮችን እንደገና ማጤን አለብን፤ ሰው ኢየሱስ ክርስቶስን ካመነ በቂው ነው የሚሉ ሐሳቦች በማህበረ ቅዱሳን ዋና ቢሮ እና ንኡስ ማዕከላት ተጧጡፏል።
እነዳንኤል ክብረትና መሰሎቹ ደግሞ እንደ ፈሮን ዓይነት የድንጋይ ልብ እንደተሰጣቸው እንዲያውም ያሁኑ ፕሮግራማችን ካልተሳካ ድብደባ እና ግድያ እንጀምራለን በማለት እየፎከሩ ነው። በተለይም ዳንኤል ክብረት የታባለው የክርስቶስ ጠላት "አባ ሕርያቆስ ከሌሉበት መንግሥተ ሰማያት አባ ሕርያቆስ ያሉበት ሲኦል እንደሚሻለው" ሲናገር ተደምጧል።
አባ ሕርያቆስ የአባ ጊዮርጊስ ዘጋስጫ ጓደኛ ሲሆኑ የዋልባ መነኩሴ በነበሩበት ወቅት ቅዳሴ ማርያምን የደረሱ ሰው እንደነበሩ ድርሳነ ኡራኤል ይናገራል። ነገር ግን ድርሰቱ ከግብጽ የመጣ ለማስመሰል አባ ሕርያቆስ ዘብሕንሳ ተብለው ይጠራሉ የግብጽ ቤተ ክርስቲያን ግን ሰውየውን አታውቃቸውም  የኢትዮጵያው የአባ ሕርያቆስ ቅዳሴም ግብጽ ቤተ ክርስቲያን ውስጥ አይገኝም። እንደ ድርሳነ ኡራኤል ዘገባ ከሆነ ግን ሰውየው ኢትዮጵያዊ ናቸው። ሰውየው የትም ይሁኑ የት ግን ዳንኤል ክብረት ሰውየውን ካላገኘኋቸው ወደ መንግሥተ ሰማያት አልገባም ብሎ እምቢ ያለበት ምክንያት ግልጽ አይደለም። ሰውየው ገና ቅዳሴ ማርያምን ደርሰዋል ብለን አድራሻቸውን ልናውቅ እንችላለንን? ሲኦል ይሁኑ ገነት እንዴት ማረጋገጥ ይቻላል? ብዙ የማያምኑ ሰዎች ጠንቋዮችም ታላላቅ ድርሰት እንዳላቸው የታወቀ ነው። ግሩም ድንቅ የሆኑ ምሥጢራዊ ቅኔዎችን የሚቀኙ ሰዎች ጠንቋይ ሆነው አግኝተናቸዋል። ስለዚህ ያንድ ሰው እውቀታዊ ችሎታ ሲኦል ወይም ገነት ለመግባቱ ማረጋገጫ አይሆንም ይህን ጉዳይ የሚያውቀው እግዚአብሔር ብቻ ነው።
ዳንኤል የሚሻለውን ራሱ ያውቃል ምርጫው የራሱ ነው እኛ ግን ማንም እዚያ ባይገኝ ጌታችን ኢየሱስ ክርስቶስ ያለበትን መርጠናል። በእርግጥም የዳንኤሉ አባ ሕርያቆስ ጌታ ባለበት ከተገኙ እኛም እዚያ እናገኛቸዋለን ምን አልባት ከሌሉ ግን እርሳቸውን ተከትለን ሲኦል መግባት አንፈልግም። ለዳንኤል ይመቸው። ይህ ትምህርቱን በሲዲ አሳትሞ ለሕዝብ ማሰራጨቱ ጉዙው ወዴት እንደሆነ ከወዲሁ ማወቅ ይችላል።
ዳንኤል እና መሰሎቹ የሰሜን ወሎው አደጋ የጌታ ቅጣት መሆኑ አልተዋጠላቸውም ይልቁንም የጌታ ቅጣት ነው ብለው ያመኑትን እና ለንስሐ የተዘጋጁትን እናንተም ከሐተሃድሶዎች ጎራ ልትመደቡ ትችላላችሁ የሚለውን የተለመደ ማስፈራሪያ እያስተጋቡ ነው።
ለቤተክርስቲያናችን መሻሻል የምንጥር የቤተ ክርስቲያኒቱ ልጆች ግን የወንድሞቻችንን ክፉ ነገር አንመኝም እግዚአብሔር ይቅር እንዲላቸውም እንጸልያለን ክፉውን በክፉ አትቃወም ይላልና ቃሉ ማህበረ ቅዱሳንን በክፉ አናስበውም እርሱ ሊገለን ሊያስድደን በሕዝባችን ፊት ሊያዋርደን ስማችንን ቢያጠፋም ስለ ስሜ ክፉውን ያደርጉባችኋል፣ ስለስሜ የተጠላችሁ ትሆናላችሁ የሚለው የጌታ ቃል ትዝ ስለሚለን በደስታ ተሞልተናል ወንድሞቻችን በያዙት የተሣሳተ አቋም ግን እጅግ አዝነናል ያዝነውም ስለምንወዳቸው እንጂ ሥራው ተጓጎለ ብለን አይደልም ሥራውን ጌታ እኛ እንደማንሠራው ጠንቅቀን እናውቃለን። እኛ ስለስሙ መነቀፋችን ደስ አሰኝቶናል ሥራው የጌታ ነው ሁሉም በጊዜው ይከናወናል ተሐድሶ የጌታ ሐሳብ ከሆነ ያብባል ይስፋፋል የጌታ ካልሆነ ግን ይጠፋል እኛ ብንሰደድ ኢየሱስ ክርስቶስ ሌሎች የተቀቡ አገልጋዮችን ያስነሳል። እግዚአብሔርን ማሸነፍ አይቻልም፤ ለወንድሞቻችን ለማህበረ ቅዱሳን አባላት የምንመክረው ግን ከማትችሉት ጌታ ጋር ነውና የገጠማችሁት ተጠንቀቁ ነው፤ እኛም ቢያንስ በሀገራችን የመኖር መብት አለን በቤተ ክርስቲያናችንም ጥያቄ የማንሳት መብት አለን መልሱን ግን ከዚያው ከሲኖዶሱ እንጂ ከናንተ አንጠብቅም። እናም እኛን በመግደል ደም ማፍሰስ እንጂ ሌላ ምን ትርፍ ታገኛላችሁ? ፖለቲካ ከሆነ አላማችሁ ለምን ፓርቲ ሆናችሁ አትወዳደሩም? በኛ ደም ለመበልጸግ እኛን በማርከስ ልትቀደሱ አስባችሁ ነው? ለምን አታስተውሉም? ሰውን በማሳደድ የጸደቀ ማን ነው? የሃማኖት ችግር አላባችሁ ካላችሁ ሊቃውንት ጉባኤው መድረክ ያዘጋጅልንና ማን እንደተሣተ እንንወያይ ስንላችሁ እምቢ ከተሐድሶዎች ጋር አብረን አንቀመጥም በማለት ትሸሻላችሁ ፡ ለምን ትሸሻላችሁ? አላውቂነታችሁ እንዳይገለጥ አይደለምን? መወያየት አንፈልግም ካላችሁ ለምን ታሳድዱናላችህ? በእውነት በእግዚአብሔር መንፈስ የምትመሩ ከሆነ አልቧልታ በየመንደሩ ከመንዛት ቃሉን ሰብካችሁ ለምን አታሳምኑንም?
አሁን የያዛችሁት ፕሮግራም ግን ከምር አደገኛ ነው ሕዝቡን ግራ ያጋባና እርስ በርሱ እንዳይተማመን የሚያደርግ ለወንጌልም ልቡን እንዲዘጋ ንስሐ ገብቶ እንዳይፈወስ እያረጋችሁ ነው በዚህ ተንኮላችሁ ምክንያት በቤተ ክርስቲያን ላይ የሚመጣው የእግዚአብሔር ቁጣ ያስፈራል ቁጣውን ብትንቁ እንኳ ለትውልድ አይብጅምና አስቡበት የጓደኞቻችሁን ሐሳብ ለማዳመጥ ጆሮአችሁን ክፈቱ፤ እኛ ተከፋፍላችሁ እንድትጋደሉ አንፈልግም ግን ተለውጣችሁ ለውጥ እንድታመጡ እንፈልጋለን ይህ ለኛም ለሀገርም ለቤተ ክርስቲያንም ለናንተም ለጌታም ይጠቅማል አሜን
የለውጥ ያለህ?
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  1. Both MK and Tehadso are enemies of the church.

    (1) MK has been a serious obstacle for the outreach of the gospel by attacking those people whom it hates and who it considers as opponents of their hegemoney despite their undisputable allegiance to our church.

    (2) The current Tehadso is the worst enemy because they are trying to plant protestant heresies in our church. What does "blieving in Chirst" mean? "Believing in Christ" means renouncing Satan, not His Mother, our most loved St. Mary and not the other Saints.

    (3) I don't care whoever has written the Liturgy of St. Mary. That liturgy is the best liturgy of all the liturgies that we have. It is so powerful and full of mytseries. If you, the Tehadsos, oppose that liturgy, go to hell and find your "savior" there. For us, there is only one Savior, whose name is Christ Jesus and who has given us our most beloved Mother, St. Mary.

    (4) The death of those people can be a rebuke against MK for its numerous sins, but it cannot be an affirmation of the protestant-tainted Tehadso movement. Christ of course wants us to reform our lives, not our faith, which is as pure and bright as the sun. Christ cannot stand against the faith He has given us. Do you think that Christ is unhappy about our veneration of St. Mary? Definitely not; He is unhappy about our sinful lives and the absence of His word amongst us. We only need a stronger bible outreach...

    (5) It is a naked fact that the Coptic church has lost many of its books over the years because violence by musil conquerors. The fact that the Copts don't have the Liturgy of St. Mary does not mean anything for us. Why don't you raise your questions about the liturgy if you have any instead of attacking? Again, you can go to hell if you don't like it. However, if you have genuine questions, we can help you understand to the extent we know it.

    (6) I advise you not to waste your time trying to struggle with the Mother of Christ, who Satan failed to defeat. Christ is always with Her. We believe She pleads with Christ on our behalf - I mean for all those who accept Her as our mother.

    (7) If you choose not to believe St. Mary as the Mother of our Church, good for you - please go join those groups and don't disturb our chirch. Even if our church has numerous problems, St. Mary has always been our love and good Mother, not our problem. Of course, She is a problem for Satan and its children.

    We say BEKA to Tehadso protestantism and MK as much as we say it to Weyane the blood sucker. I can assure you that you will not succeed to corrupt our church with your heresies and protestant ideologies. In the old days, bitse-hasawian (false brothers) were disturbing the church by spreading false teachings like the Tehdaso groups, but the apostles and St. Paul won the battle. Likewise, the true fathers and children of EOTC will previal in this battle.

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    1. i have satisfied with your answers keep it up

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    2. I think you don't know about MK. You should go and dig how and what MK is doing... you will find the truth and will stand beside them. I had also the same perception until I went to Ethiopia and see the sacrifies of MK members to our mother church.

      I hope God will open your heart to see the truth... and who are those baming MK.

      May God be with you.

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    3. There has been a number of Tehadiso initiatives some years ago. And these tehadiso people were end up becoming Pente. So we know who sent you and who sponsor you. I don't know Daniel or Mehabere Kidusan closely. but both are doing their best to save us from such Menafik sponsored movements.

      I WONDER WHAT EVER AMOUNT OF MONEY YOU PAID, WHY DO YOU WANT TO DESTROY YOUR IDENTITY ? DON'T YOU KNOW THAT PROTESTANT IS BEING DECAYING FROM ITS ROOTS IN THE WESTERN SOCIETY BY ACCEPTING GAY PEOPLE AS MEMBERS AND PRIESTS ? DON'T YOU KNOW THAT ORTHODOX CHURCH HAS PLAYED A GREAT ROLE FOR US NOT TO FOLLOW THEIR WRONG PATH ?

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    4. FROM YOUR EARLY WRITINGS I THOUGHT YOU WERE A RELIGIOUS PERSON. BUT EVENTUALY AT THE CONCLUSION OF YOUR WRITING I CAME TO REALIZE THAT YOU ARE NOT. YOU NEED TO TAKE TIME AND READ THE BIBLE. I DO NOT WANT YOU TO BLINDLY FOLLOW THE EXISTING TEACHING OF THIS CHURCH. YOU SAID GOOD THAT WE ARE LACKING A HOLY LIFE THAT IS FEARING TO THE LORD. BUT THIS DOES NOT MAKE YOU DENY WHAT THE BIBLE TEACHES. NO ONE CALLED YOU TO COME OUT OF YOUR CHURCH AND JOIN THE PROTESTANT CHURCHES. WHAT THE REAL PEOPLE FROM TEHADESO ARE SAYING IS: CHANGE YOUR FALSE TEACHING AND LIE STYLES. YOU MAY BE HAPPY AND ARGUE FOR THE TEACHING OF THE CHURCH. BUT WHAT IS YOUR BASIS FOR YOUR ARGUMENT. IS IT THE BILE? ACTUALLY I AGREE WITH YOU IF THESE TEHADISO PEOPLE ARE WORKIG TO PLANT PROTESTANTISM IN ORTHODOX. BUT IF THEY ARE AGAINST THE HERETIC TEACHING OF THE ORTHODOX CHURCH AND THE UNHOLY LIFE STYLES OF HER MEMBERS I SAY THEY ARE RIGHT. LET ME CONCLUDE BY THIS. WE NEED TO GIVE RESPECTS FOR GODLY PEOPLE LIKE MARY.BUT IT IS JESUS ONLY WHO DIED ON THE CROSS AND WHO CAN SAVE SINNERS.

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  2. ኦርቶዶክስApril 29, 2011 at 10:04 AM

    Emotion, Emotion Emotion... I say we need both MK and Tehadso. We just don't want them to fight. We want them to discuss and work for our church in civil ways. They are all our brothers and sistes in Christ.

    Yared, I think you may have misunderstood the discussion regarding St. Mary. The is no one (not even the protestants) who do not respect and honor Virgin mary. You don't always need to take it to the extreme by exagerating things by 1000 fold. Look, the discussion is not about wether Kidist Mariam needs to be respected, loved etc. She bear in her wombs the king of heaven, our savior. Who doesn't acknowledge this?

    The discussion is this: Tell me one verse (just a single verse) in the Bible that you should pray to St. Mary (after her death) and that she is your tebeka, amalaj, etc. Again it is just a discussion. Everyone is here to learn. In my view, Christ died for you. If you believe, and if you are willing to give yourself to him, you will his kingdom is yours (according to the Bible. Your I can tell you thousands of vers where that is the case since the entire new testament talks about that. So Please distinguich between the need to respect, love, honor St. Mary and the need to worship her, pray to her, and seek her amalajnet. I want to know what the Bible recommends. I don't care about what MK says or what Tehadeso says.

    God bless.

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  3. 1 . renouncing Satan, not His Mother? Who renounce St Mary? Evedence? I hope you are not defending Tamre Marial

    2 . Christ want to clean up chuch (read Revelation 2 - 3)

    3. Christ is unhappy about any lie.

    4. We believe She pleads with Christ on our behalf (Evedence?)

    Bless you?

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  4. Anonymous,

    I suggest that you leave our church alone. Leave our church and join your protestant brethren. We don't have time to waste with a protestant symphatizer who sits at EOTC church but doubts the intercession of St. Mary. EOTC is not your place. We will fight you with all the means available. God may have allowed you to challenge us because He wants us to be stronger, i.e. to know and practice His words much better. Other than that, you will not achieve anything. EOTC believers are ready to die for the sake of our God, Lord Christ Jesus, and His Mother, St. Mary whom we equally love. Your enemity against our faith will only make us stronger as a nail does so when it gets hit on the head.

    Even if I know you have already covered your eyes not to see the truth, I will give you one quote.

    St. Mary’s Intercession:
    We see that if we give importance to the principle of intercession in general, then
    how much more effective would be the prayers of the Mother of God for the salvation of her children. We have seen St. Mary receiving the motherhood of the Incarnate Son of God and becoming a mother of His flesh, i.e. His Church. This motherhood is not merely an honorable title but a responsibility of unceasing work. Being a superior member of the body of Lord Jesus Christ (the Church) she responds to the need of the other members seeking the salvation of everyone. In the story of the wedding of Cana of Galilee, we can
    realize the limits of the intercession of Virgin Mary. For she informed her Son, “they have no wine” (Jn 2:3) – Of course the Lord was aware of that and surely he does not need to be reminded with the need of his children, but our Lord Jesus Christ who is full of love is pleased to see the mutual feeling of love in His mother and His children. Her request was only made once, which shows clearly her confidence in Her Son’s reply, for she did not repeat her request but with every assurance she said to the people, “Whatever He says to you, do it.” (Jn 2:5) Through her conversation with the people of the wedding, we can visualize her role in intercession. For she presents our needs to her Son and then directs our hearts to diligently carry out His commandments and to do whatever He tells us.

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  5. St. Mary’s Veneration:
    For two thousand years, our Church has preserved the memory of Virgin Mary as the prototype of all Christians for she was truly pure and unconditionally obedient to God. St. Mary is also our model in that she was the first person to receive Lord Jesus Christ. As she bore our Lord physically, all Christians now have the privilege of bearing God within them spiritually. The honor we give to St. Mary also signifies our view of who Lord Jesus is. From early times, the Church has called her Mother of God (Gr. Theotokos), a title that implies that her Son is both fully man and fully God. As His mother, St. Mary was the source of our Lord’s human nature. Therefore, because of her character and especially because of her role in God’s plan of salvation, Christians appropriately honor St. Mary as the first among the saints. The Archangel Gabriel initiated this honor in his address to her, “Rejoice, highly favored one, the Lord is with you; blessed are you among women” (Lk 1:28) – compare how the Archangel addressed Zacharias the priest (Lk 1:43). This salutation clearly indicates that God Himself has chosen to honor Virgin Mary. Her favored status was confirmed when she went to visit her cousin St. Elizabeth, who was then six months pregnant with St. John the Baptist. St. Elizabeth greeted St. Mary with these words, “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb. But why is this granted to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?” (Lk 1: 42,43). Virgin Mary herself, by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, predicted the honor that would be paid her throughout history, “For behold, henceforth all generations will call me blessed” (Lk 1:48). (since you Pente-Tehadsos have excluded yoursefl from the generation of Christ Jesus, you cannot bless, thank and honor St. Mary) In obedience to God’s clear intention, therefore, the Orthodox Church honors St. Mary in icons, hymns, and special feast days. We entreat her, as the human being who was most intimate with Lord Jesus Christ on earth, to intercede with Him on our behalf. We ask her, as the first believer and the mother of the Church, for guidance and protection; we venerate her – but we do not worship her, for worship belongs to God, her Son, alone. Moreover, as our spiritual mother (Jn 19:27), we are commanded by Holy Scriptures to honor her – “Honor your father and mother.” (Ex 20:12; Deut 5:16; Eph 6:2)

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    1. Where do you find to venerate her? Jesus is enough for us Orthodox people.

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  6. ኦርቶዶክስApril 29, 2011 at 10:00 PM

    Yared, መናደድ ምንም አይጠቅምም። ይሄ ውይይት ነው። የውይይት ልምድ ስለሌለን በጣም ስንቸገር እንስተዋላለን። I agree with all of the things you wrote regarding St. Mary's veneration except for the last part where you said "we ask her, as the first believer and the mother of the church, for guidance and protection" ይሄንን ከየት ነው ያመጣኸው? Done Quote John 2. That was when she was here with us. Where in the Bible does it instruct us to pray to anyone but God. To me prayer is worship and it is only addressed to God. Please educate me. I want to know, but make sure you use good Biblical references. Jumping to a conclusion and labeling discussion participants as pente, protestant, tehadso doesn't help in anyway. Let's just discuss objectively.

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    1. bad idea not from ort

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    2. Because they are not orthodox. Why you expect the truth from those guys?

      Menafik is always menafik...

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    3. MK IS DOING FOR THE BETTER OF ORTHODOX TEWAHIDO. DON'T TRY TOBE AGAINEST IR............

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    4. YIKUNENI BEKEME TIBELENI LUK 1

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  7. Orthodox,

    Thank you for being interested in a civilized discussion! I have civility and would value genuine spirited discussions. However, when people claim what they are not, and try to tell us a different story, it is sickening. We know at least the following:

    (1) All Christians believed in Lord Jesus and the intercession of His Mother until the 16th century. That is not to mean that church had not faced challenges to the faith earlier than that. Arian, Mekdoneows etc... can be mentioned.

    (2)Things changed in the 16th century when Luther created the protestant denomination. Luther started by identifying some problems in the catholic church, but then he went beyond that renounced the intercession on St. Mary. Girgir leleba yemechal endibal, some mistakes of the Catholic church led to the destruction of crucial elements of the Christian faith. Similarly, the tehados brothers are trying to do the same thing, i.e. to destroy an important component of the faith in the pretext of cleaning up the church. We know we have a lot of problems that we need to solve at EOTC, but we will not allow a critical component of our faith to be destroyed in the girigir. It may be true that the Pente-leaning tehadsos are hirlings of the Pente as some allege.

    (3)Right now all Chritians, such as the Catholic, Anglican, Eastern Orthodox, American Orhtodox, and Oriental Orthodox churches, except the protestant denomination, believe in the intercession of St. Mary. Whether the protestants believe in St. Mary or not is not my issue. It becomes an issue when some pente symphatizers in our church try to plant the pente heresy at EOTC. If these people genuinely care for the Gospel and Christ Jesus, why not they promote the preaching of the bible and try to strengthen the church by being a positive change agent. Unfortunately, the tehadsos I have seen so are are big negative agents that we need to fight. If they are humble enough and are willing to learn, of course we are obliged to help them learn. However, these people are claiming to have come up with their own tehadso agenda apparently after analyzing the church's faith. The truth is they are just imitating the protestant faith and way of life. Well, they can have that for themselves, but we will not allow them to corrupt our fellow Christians in our church and destroy a key element of the church. Satan always creates confusion and raises dust while trying to trap some innocent fellows. What is further disappointing is MK is using the tehdso movement as justification for its survival, instead of helping to create a forum where every voices and arguments are heard and a decision is made accordingly. That would have closed the bad mouths and free our church from such ideologies and girgir. Again, both Bishop Paul and MK don't want the church to be a peaceful place of worship; they both like the girigir so that they can contnue to usurp the church.

    will continue ....

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  8. Orthodox,

    Response to your q
    (A) If you agree that we should praise and honor St. Mary as stated in the bible, how do you do it? You speak words of praise to Her and by that you are acknowledging that She is listening. If She is listening, what is wrong aksing Her our demands along with the praise. What we need to understand is that St. Mary is the mother of the Church of Christ and we are the children of the church. As our Mother, She nourishes us with all we need to grow in Christ.

    (B) All prayers are not worships. Prayer becomes worhsip when directly directed to God. When we pray to St. Mary, we are praying to God through the intercession of St. Mary. In this proccess, we are not worshiping Mary, but we are seeking Her milja or intercession or prayer on our behalf. I can pick up the phone now and call a friend, give him warm greetings and ask him to pray for me. It is exactly this that we are trying to do with Mary and the rest of the saints. I know protestants don't have problem when they request the pastor to intercede/pray on their behalf - the pastors proudly put their hands on the person and pray on his/her behalf. Is it not hypocracy and clear denial that pastors/pentes pray for others, and reject the prayer of the Most Blessed, St. Mary?

    (C) Please don't cofuse some of the bad cultures people may have in our church with the truth about the intercession of St. Mary. The culture of not practicing the word of God can only be eliminated by preaching the bible intensively and telling believers that St Mary can only interced for those who follow the word of Her beloved Son. On my part, I need St. Mary on my side all the time because Her prayers are so powerful. With my sinful life, my prayers may not have been heard or may have taken so long time to respond as I am not as worthy because of my daily transgressions. With St. Mary being on my side, I have been able to move mountians through the power of God with the intercession of St. Mary. However, i don't like it when peope try to commoditize the intercession of our most Blessed Mother.

    (D) I think we have better things to do, instead of arguing about this issue. If you read the bible, you will see that it is written in numerous places that the prayer of the saints is so powerful. As much as you are not obligated to ask your brothers, sisters, pastor or mother for any help, you are not obligated to seek the intercession of the saints as well. You are free to believe it or not. It is a choice, but it is true. We believe Christ Jesus is the truth, and anyone attached to that truth has truth in him. Thus, we believe the truth and the ones that have truth in them are valuable for our salvation. Nothing compares to St. Mary in terms of Her closeness to the Truth.

    (E) Some people think that St. Mary, the angels and the other siants cannot listen to what we have to say. That is simply wrong. Through the power of God, they can see and listen to what is going on in this world. For example, diablos and its serawit are fallen angels, but they still know your thoughts and what you have to say. Knowing that, they try to influence our thoughts and actions and accuse us before God stating our transgressions and sins. If God gives that capacity to fallen angels, what greater gifts can be given to St. Mary, the holy angels and the other saints. Using their great gifts, the saints try to bring unto God Christ Jesus our prayers and intercede for our salvation.

    (F) I know our weaknesses. Because of our sinful lives and ignorance, people are tempted to "despise" our Mother, the angels and the saints on whom we rely so much. What we need to do is to learn the Word of God and live according to it, not abandon our church or try to plant pente heresy in our church. If we can do that, there is no any better church than ours on this planet.

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  9. Orthodox, --- perhaps duplicate.

    Response to your q
    (A) If you agree that we should praise and honor St. Mary as stated in the bible, how do you do it? You speak words of praise to Her and by that you are acknowledging that She is listening. If She is listening, what is wrong aksing Her our demands along with the praise. What we need to understand is that St. Mary is the mother of the Church of Christ and we are the children of the church. As our Mother, She nourishes us with all we need to grow in Christ.

    (B) All prayers are not worships. Prayer becomes worhsip when directly directed to God. When we pray to St. Mary, we are praying to God through the intercession of St. Mary. In this proccess, we are not worshiping Mary, but we are seeking Her milja or intercession or prayer on our behalf. I can pick up the phone now and call a friend, give him warm greetings and ask him to pray for me. It is exactly this that we are trying to do with Mary and the rest of the saints. I know protestants don't have problem when they request the pastor to intercede/pray on their behalf - the pastors proudly put their hands on the person and pray on his/her behalf. Is it not hypocracy and clear denial that pastors/pentes pray for others, and reject the prayer of the Most Blessed, St. Mary?

    (C) Please don't cofuse some of the bad cultures people may have in our church with the truth about the intercession of St. Mary. The culture of not practicing the word of God can only be eliminated by preaching the bible intensively and telling believers that St Mary can only interced for those who follow the word of Her beloved Son. On my part, I need St. Mary on my side all the time because Her prayers are so powerful. With my sinful life, my prayers may not have been heard or may have taken so long time to respond as I am not as worthy because of my daily transgressions. With St. Mary being on my side, I have been able to move mountians through the power of God with the intercession of St. Mary. However, i don't like it when peope try to commoditize the intercession of our most Blessed Mother.

    (D) I think we have better things to do, instead of arguing about this issue. If you read the bible, you will see that it is written in numerous places that the prayer of the saints is so powerful. As much as you are not obligated to ask your brothers, sisters, pastor or mother for any help, you are not obligated to seek the intercession of the saints as well. You are free to believe it or not. It is a choice, but it is true. We believe Christ Jesus is the truth, and anyone attached to that truth has truth in him. Thus, we believe the truth and the ones that have truth in them are valuable for our salvation. Nothing compares to St. Mary in terms of Her closeness to the Truth.

    (E) Some people think that St. Mary, the angels and the other siants cannot listen to what we have to say. That is simply wrong. Through the power of God, they can see and listen to what is going on in this world. For example, diablos and its serawit are fallen angels, but they still know your thoughts and what you have to say. Knowing that, they try to influence our thoughts and actions and accuse us before God stating our transgressions and sins. If God gives that capacity to fallen angels, what greater gifts can be given to St. Mary, the holy angels and the other saints. Using their great gifts, the saints try to bring unto God Christ Jesus our prayers and intercede for our salvation.

    (F) I know our weaknesses. Because of our sinful lives and ignorance, people are tempted to "despise" our Mother, the angels and the saints on whom we rely so much. What we need to do is to learn the Word of God and live according to it, not abandon our church or try to plant pente heresy in our church. If we can do that, there is no any better church than ours on this planet.

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  10. Joke of the day,

    "The is no one (not even the protestants) who do not respect and honor Virgin mary."

    How do the Ethiopian protestants honor St. Mary? I wish they stopped insulting Her.

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  11. Dear Mr. Editor,

    Thank you Mr. Editor for providing the forum for discussion on contentious issues. I appreciate your impartial service to both parties. I also try to participate on "Dejeselam", but they filter issues critical of them or the church. They don't understand that they are not serving the best interest of the church by simply focusing on their narrow interests. Thank you again for providing unfettered access to me to respond to the opponents of our church.

    With regards,
    Yared

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  12. ኦርቶዶክስMay 1, 2011 at 10:33 AM

    Yared, thanks for attempting to respond to my questions. God bless you. My problem is this: You detailed interesting 6 point arguments, but I haven't seen even a single Bible verse to back your claims. Interesting logic, but where is the evidence? Our church put so much emphasis on the role of Dingil mariam, angels, saints etc,(to the point we don't even have time to focus on our God who died for us) but not even a single verse in the Bible that recommends for us to pray to the saints instead of directly to Him. I am just curious where did we get this from? There are millions of angels who serve the Lord and us, but we only pray to the few angels we know (Micahel, Gabriel, Rufael, Urael, Fanuel). Who are we to request the help of a specific angel out of the millions? Can God send an angel of his choice to help us?

    May I recommend something to you? If you haven't already done so, please read the following books in the new testament: St. Pauls messages to Romans, Galatians, and Hebrews. These are not big books, so please take your time and read the whole thing (not just verses here and there). When you read them first pray so that God can help you understand, take notes, write down your questions, discuss your questions with people you know etc. For each book, please try to understand the main objectives. Of course, we need to read the entire Bible, but I am recommending these because these books help us understand Christ more. The problem I see is that we don't know Christ as we should. I will read the books again too. I think this will help our future discussions regarding similar topics.

    May God bless you

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  13. Orthodox,

    If your issue is a question of balance, then that may be a valid point. I agree that we need to learn the bible better and emphasize more the savlation done on the cross while keeping the integrity of the faith. Othewise, there is no place in the bible that does not teach about intercession for each other among the family of Lord Jesus Christ. we, including St. Mary, the angels and the other saints, are all His family. Again, you don't have to seek the intercession of the saints if you don't need to. However, intercession is an undeniable fact.

    If you believe that you don't need any one to pray for you, you can march alone which is fine. I have explained everything in a reasonable detail, but I cannot do much if you don't like it. However, i want to acknowledge that some people in our church have gone beyond seeking intercession and venerating the saints completely filling their lives with the saint of their choice. That imbalance will improve as people learn more about the word of God and practice it regularly. People have been praying through the saints for hundreds of years, and it may take time for people to live the life, instead of fully depending on the prayers of the saints.

    It is a mistake to attribute our sinful life to the core faith of the church. We are sinful because, among others, (1) the bible has not been taught well to us, (2) there are some bad deftera teachings that have given false hope to people, (3) bad culture, tinkola, and worldly life have infested the church, and (4) the majority of the priests, bishops and preachers are like hired men (mindegna). Please don't confuse the bad deftera writings or teachings with the core faith of the church. St. Mary is among the core.

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  14. Mutecha . Ahune enanet minoch nachihu

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  15. As God be my witness, I really like the conversation between Yared & Orthodox. One question I have for Yared is "For example, diablos and its serawit are fallen angels, but they still know your thoughts and what you have to say. Knowing that, they try to influence our thoughts and actions and accuse us before God stating our transgressions and sins."

    Where did you get this? the devil knowing our thoughts?

    We know how he oprates st Paul tell's us that he has fallen angles working for him Ephesians 6:12. He only know about us from past and current events as "we are not ignorant of his thoughts" 2 cor 2:11

    Only God knows our thoughts. Daniel 2:27-28

    Fasil.

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  16. I relay know who are you.your instance is the shameless scare for the church.Have you witnessed the work of MK for a minute?yes indeed I now where your destination is go forth .Please don't extend your life through the barrage.I and many of my colleagues, who are attending university educations are strongly relay on MK.LONG LIVE FOR THEM .Down and heal for the work of the "TEHADISO",GIVE "Niseha" for the spearheaded individuals.do you know the strength and number of the Egypt Coptic orthodox,"not protestant or Tehadoso"like you.PLEAS KEEP YOUR FAITH ,DIE FOR TRUTH ,ENOUGH TO LIVE FOR MONEY AS YIHUDA.

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    1. You talk with full of burgers in your stomach. To show us your trutheness go and join the real Ethiopian Orthodoxians who sacrify themselves for their church, see you there budy!

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    2. I don't have any priddiction you did well in high school, so, you still trampet or bark for mahiber kidusan (mahiber diablose). Upgrade yourself with a prayer and get out of that touch or stay away from the tehadiso (mahibere kidusan (diablose)) group.

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  17. ki ki ki----the the chief of thiefs!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  18. I am surprised with the kind of discussion that is going on here. This is not the first time that people brought new beliefs in the history of Christianity. Starting from Ariyos you can count many more people who came up with their own philosophy. Tehadeso ,protestant and others- why do you argue with us. Orthodox has its own doctrine. If any one of you, including the respected priests and church leaders, the moment you deviate from the belief of the church, you have the right to go out. If your plan is to stay in the church and to dictate us to accept your point of view, this will be undemocratic and against the constitution.

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  19. እነሱ በከፉ ስሕተቶች የተሞሉ መናፍቃን ሰው መናፍቅ ይላሉ

    አንድ ሐመር ለምሳሌ ያህል

    ቀደም ሲል በተጠቀሰው ሐመር የተባለው 7ኛ ዓመት ቁጥር 3 1991 ዓ/ም የማህበረ ቅዱሳን ሃላፊነቱ የተወሰነ የግል ማህበር ሕትመት ውስጥ አንድ ነገር እጠቅሳለሁ ብየ ነበር አጋጣሚው ስለገረመኝ ነው ይህን ያልኩት በዚህ መጽሔት ውስጥ ስለ ማነፈፍቃን የጻፉትን ማስተካከያ እንዲህ ሲሉ ይሰጣሉ፡፡ ቀደም ሲል በሐመር 7ኛ ዓመት ቁጥር 2 1991 ዓ/ም ባስተማሩት የተሳሳተ ትምህርት ማስተካከያው እንዲህ ይላል፡፡ ቤተ ክርስቲያንህን ዕወቅ በሚለው አምድ ውስጥ ገጽ 31 6ኛ አንቀጽ // ነገር ግን አንድም ብሎ ከአተረጓጓም ህግ ውጭ ትርጉም የተረጎመ ብዙ ሐተታ አትቶ በቂ አስረጂ ያመጣ የተደበቀውን ያወጣ እንደሆነ መናፍቅ ይባላል/// ብለው ጽፈዋል አረምን ብለው መንፈቅ ሕዝቡን ካባሉና ስንቱን ሰው መናፍቅ ከደረጉ በኋላ ለእነሱ መናፍቅ ማለት እስከዚህ በጣም ቀላል ስለሆነ ሲያርሙት በጎደለ አእምሯቸው/// አንድም ብሎ ከአተረጓጓም ህጉ ውጭ ትርጉም የተረጎመ መናፍቅ ይባላል፡፡ ብለዋል፡፡ ለነጋዴው ለዘራፊው ለአሉባልተኛው ቡድን መናፍቅ ማለት የትርጉም ሕግ ያዛባ ነው፡፡ ስንት የትርጎም ህግ እንዳለ በትርጉም ህግና በትርጉም መካከል ያለውን ልዩነት የማያውቁ ያልተማሩ አስተማሪዎች ከሃይመኖት አንጸር ለእነሱ ማፍቅ ማለት ይህ ነው፡፡ በተግባር ያየነው ደግሞ ለእነሱ ማነፍቅ ማለት የእንሱ ቡድን አባል አለመሆን፣ መዎጮ አለማዋጣት፣ የእነሱም .... አለመደገፍ ነው፡፡ ልብ ይስጣቸው፡፡ ቀደም ሲል በተጠቀሰው ሐመር የተባለው 7ኛ ዓመት ቁጥር 3 1991 ዓ/ም የማህበረ ቅዱሳን ሃላፊነቱ የተወሰነ የግል ማህበር ሕትመት ውስጥ አንድ ነገር እጠቅሳለሁ ብየ ነበር አጋጣሚው ስለገረመኝ ነው ይህን ያልኩት በዚህ መጽሔት ውስጥ ስለ ማነፈፍቃን የጻፉትን ማስተካከያ እንዲህ ሲሉ ይሰጣሉ፡፡ ቀደም ሲል በሐመር 7ኛ ዓመት ቁጥር 2 1991 ዓ/ም ባስተማሩት የተሳሳተ ትምህርት ማስተካከያው እንዲህ ይላል፡፡ ቤተ ክርስቲያንህን ዕወቅ በሚለው አምድ ውስጥ ገጽ 31 6ኛ አንቀጽ // ነገር ግን አንድም ብሎ ከአተረጓጓም ህግ ውጭ ትርጉም የተረጎመ ብዙ ሐተታ አትቶ በቂ አስረጂ ያመጣ የተደበቀውን ያወጣ እንደሆነ መናፍቅ ይባላል/// ብለው ጽፈዋል አረምን ብለው መንፈቅ ሕዝቡን ካባሉና ስንቱን ሰው መናፍቅ ከደረጉ በኋላ ለእነሱ መናፍቅ ማለት እስከዚህ በጣም ቀላል ስለሆነ ሲያርሙት በጎደለ አእምሯቸው/// አንድም ብሎ ከአተረጓጓም ህጉ ውጭ ትርጉም የተረጎመ መናፍቅ ይባላል፡፡ ብለዋል፡፡ ለነጋዴው ለዘራፊው ለአሉባልተኛው ቡድን መናፍቅ ማለት የትርጉም ሕግ ያዛባ ነው፡፡ ስንት የትርጎም ህግ እንዳለ በትርጉም ህግና በትርጉም መካከል ያለውን ልዩነት የማያውቁ ያልተማሩ አስተማሪዎች ከሃይመኖት አንጸር ለእነሱ ማፍቅ ማለት ይህ ነው፡፡ በተግባር ያየነው ደግሞ ለእነሱ ማነፍቅ ማለት የእንሱ ቡድን አባል አለመሆን፣ መዎጮ አለማዋጣት፣ የእነሱም .... አለመደገፍ ነው፡፡ ልብ ይስጣቸው፡፡


    የአባይነህ ካሴ የመጽሐፍ ቅዱስ ጥናት በጨረፍታ ሲዳሰስ

    አባይነህ ካሴ የተባለ የቀድሞ የቡድኑ አመራር ከሊቃውንት ገልብጦ በጻፈው ጽሑፍ ሲገለብጥ ተሳስቶ ይሁን ወይም በራሴ አብራራለሁ ሲል // የመጽፍ ቅዱስ ጥናት ብሎ ባሳተመውና ብዙ በነገደበት መጽሐፍ የሚከተሉትን ጽፏል
    • ገጽ 124 // 2.4.2// ከየት እንዳመጣው አይታወቅም መጽሐፍ ቅዱስ ግነት ይጠቀማል ብሎ ተናግሯል፡፡ በመንፈስ ቅዱስ ተቃኝተው ቅዱሳን የጻፉትን መጽሐፍ አጋናኝ ብሎ መሳደብ ምን ማለት ነው፡፡ መጽሐፍ ቅዱስን አጋናኝ ካለ ገድላትንና ድርሳናትን፣ ተአምራትን ምን ሊላቸው ነው፡፡ ምሳሌው ደግሞ በገጽ 125 ከጩኸታቸው የተነሳ ምድር ተናወጠች የሚለው ተጋነነ አቀራረብ ነው እንጅ ምድር አልተናወጣችም ይለናል፡፡
    • በገጽ 217 ደግሞ ይባሰ ምን ይላል መሰላችሁ /// ነፍስ አትጾምም /// የሚጾም ስጋ ነው ዳዊት ነፍሴን በጾም አደከምኳት ሲል ስለ ስጋው ነውእንጅ ነፍስ አትጾምም ብሎ የክፋት ትርጎም ያስተምራል
    • ከመጽሐፍ ቅዱስ መዝገበ ቃላት እንዳለ ገልብጦ ከጻፈው ምእራፍ ላይ የቤተ ክርስቲያኒቱን ዋና ትውፊት ሳይረዳና ምንጩን የማን እንደሆነ ሳይጠይቅ ኢትዮጵያዊው ጃንደረባን ያጠመቀው ዲያቆኑ ፊሊጶስ ነው ብሉ አስከፊ ስህተትን ምናልባትም ከእነሱ ቡድን ውጭ መዋጮ የማይከፍል ወይም አብሮ የማይነግድ ነው ቢሳሳተው ኖሮ እስከ አሁን ተሐድሶ መናፍቅ ተብሎ ነበር፡፡
    ገና ይቀጥላል ይህ እንደው ገለጥ ገለጥ ተድርጎ በማየት የተገኘ ስህተት ነው፡፡ ሊቀውንት ቁጭ ብለው ቢመረምሩትማ ምን ያህል ስህተት ይገኝ ይሆን በእኛ አቅም እንኳ ይህን ያህል ከተገኘ፡፡
    ጎበዝ አሁን እንግዲህ // ዲን አባይነህ ካሴን // ምን እንበለው፡፡ መጽሐፍ ቅዱስ ያጋናል፣ ነፍስ አትጦምም፣ ኢትዮጵያዊው ጃንደረባን ያጠመቀው ዲያቆን ነው ብሏል፡፡ እኛ እንደእነሱ ባለጌአይደለንም ሲኖዶስ ይፈረድበት፡፡
    አንድ አጭር መልእክት ትናንት የደረሰኝ አባይነህ ካሴ የተባለ የቀድሞ የቡድኑ አመራር ከሊቃውንት ገልብጦ በጻፈው ጽሑፍ ሲገለብጥ ተሳስቶ ይሁን ወይም በራሴ አብራራለሁ ሲል // የመጽፍ ቅዱስ ጥናት ብሎ ባሳተመውና ብዙ በነገደበት መጽሐፍ የሚከተሉትን ጽፏል
    • ገጽ 124 // 2.4.2// ከየት እንዳመጣው አይታወቅም መጽሐፍ ቅዱስ ግነት ይጠቀማል ብሎ ተናግሯል፡፡ በመንፈስ ቅዱስ ተቃኝተው ቅዱሳን የጻፉትን መጽሐፍ አጋናኝ ብሎ መሳደብ ምን ማለት ነው፡፡ መጽሐፍ ቅዱስን አጋናኝ ካለ ገድላትንና ድርሳናትን፣ ተአምራትን ምን ሊላቸው ነው፡፡ ምሳሌው ደግሞ በገጽ 125 ከጩኸታቸው የተነሳ ምድር ተናወጠች የሚለው ተጋነነ አቀራረብ ነው እንጅ ምድር አልተናወጣችም ይለናል፡፡
    • በገጽ 217 ደግሞ ይባሰ ምን ይላል መሰላችሁ /// ነፍስ አትጾምም /// የሚጾም ስጋ ነው ዳዊት ነፍሴን በጾም አደከምኳት ሲል ስለ ስጋው ነውእንጅ ነፍስ አትጾምም ብሎ የክፋት ትርጎም ያስተምራል
    • ከመጽሐፍ ቅዱስ መዝገበ ቃላት እንዳለ ገልብጦ ከጻፈው ምእራፍ ላይ የቤተ ክርስቲያኒቱን ዋና ትውፊት ሳይረዳና ምንጩን የማን እንደሆነ ሳይጠይቅ ኢትዮጵያዊው ጃንደረባን ያጠመቀው ዲያቆኑ ፊሊጶስ ነው ብሉ አስከፊ ስህተትን ምናልባትም ከእነሱ ቡድን ውጭ መዋጮ የማይከፍል ወይም አብሮ የማይነግድ ነው ቢሳሳተው ኖሮ እስከ አሁን ተሐድሶ መናፍቅ ተብሎ ነበር፡፡
    ገና ይቀጥላል ይህ እንደው ገለጥ ገለጥ ተድርጎ በማየት የተገኘ ስህተት ነው፡፡ ሊቀውንት ቁጭ ብለው ቢመረምሩትማ ምን ያህል ስህተት ይገኝ ይሆን በእኛ አቅም እንኳ ይህን ያህል ከተገኘ፡፡
    ጎበዝ አሁን እንግዲህ // ዲን አባይነህ ካሴን // ምን እንበለው፡፡ መጽሐፍ ቅዱስ ያጋናል፣ ነፍስ አትጦምም፣ ኢትዮጵያዊው ጃንደረባን ያጠመቀው ዲያቆን ነው ብሏል፡፡ እኛ እንደእነሱ ባለጌአይደለንም ሲኖዶስ ይፈረድበት፡፡

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  20. hihihi enanten belo enten WEREGNOCHE zeme belachehu were kemetaworo erasachehun meremeru Be tsadeke seme Yehaset temehertachehun masetelalefe lemen asefelege be rasachehu seme menager men asaferachehu. yedebekachehubet mekeneyat ema yetaweke new.menafek hulu masewtewalun yesetachehu

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  21. እኔና መሰሎቼ በጣም ገርሞናል፤ እናም ለካ ቤተክርስቲያናችንን የሚበጠብጡት
    ማህበረ ከይሲ (ማህበረ ቅዱሳን) ብለው ስም ያወጡለት ድርጅት ዉስጥ የተሰገሰገው ቀበሮ ነው። “ፍየል ከመድረሷ ቅጠል መበጠሷ”። ጳጳስን ከጳጳስ፣ ቄስን ከቄስ፤ ዲያቆንን ከዲያቆን፣ ወጣትን ከወጣት፣ ምዕመናን ከምዕምናን እና እነርሱን ከራሳቸው እያበጣበጣጡ በሚሰበስቡት ብር ከዓለም ሀብታሞች ውስጥ አስመድቧቸዋል። ግፍን የማይፈሩ ሙቅ አላማጭ ቅምጥሎች፣ እስካሁን አጭበርብረን የዘረፍነው ይብቃን የማይሉ ደፋሮች ሆነዋል፡፡ ወደ ቁም ነገሩ ልምጣና ምን አለ እችን ቅድስት ቤተክርስቲያን እና በጎቿን ለቀቅ አድርገው የራሳቸውን የተሃድሶ ተግባር ተልዕኮ በግልጽ አውጀው ፈቃደኛ አባል መሰብሰብ ቢቀጥሉ!!! የተጭበረበረው እና እውነት መስሎት እናት ቤተክርስቲያንን እያቆሰለ ያለው ምስኪን ደግሞ በንስሀ ቢመለሱ ማንም በእዳ አይጠይቃቸውም። በእነርሱ ምክንያት እርቅ ጠፍቶ መለያየት ሰፍኗልና እባካችሁ ፍረሱ በሉልልን !!! የሚዘርፈን፣ የሚያጋጨን፣ የሚከፋፍለን ማህበረ ከይሲን (ማህበረ ቅዱሳን) ከአንዲት ኦርቶዶክስ ቤተክርስቲያናችን እግዚአብሔር ያስወግድልን። አሜን!!!

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    1. 11/10/12እነዚህኮ አላማቸው ወደፊት የቤተ ክርስትያኒቱን አባቶች ሊቃውንቱን ካህናቱን መነኮሳቱን መናፍቃን በማለት ስማቸውን በማጥፋት የነሱ አባላት በሆኑት ጳጳሳት በማስተባበር በማስወገዝ ከህዝቡ ልቡና በማስወጣት ህዝቡን በአባልነት በመመልመል ቤተ ክርስትያኒቱን ወደ ድርጅት መቀየር ነው አላማቸው 2ኛም ቤተ ክርስትያኒቱ ውስጥ ወንጌል እንዳይሰበክና በተረታተረትና በህገ ኦሪት ብቻ እንድትመራ ነው የሚፈልጉት ህዝቡ ግን እነማን እንደሆኑ እያወቃቸው ነው::(ማህበረ ከይሲ)




























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  22. ክርስቲያን ማለት ፤-ክርስቶስ ማለት ነው ክርስቶስ ደሞ በዚች ምድር ሲመላለስ አንድም ቀን ሰውን አሳዝኖ ክፉም ቃል ተናግሮ አያውቅም
    ከርስቲያን ማለት ሰው አክባሪ አየሁ አላሁም ሰማሁ አልሰማሁም ነው እናንተ ግን አማርኛችሁ ጥር አይደለም በጭራሽ ክርስትናን አይሰብክም ምክንያቱም ከሆነ ነገር ጋር ይቀላቀልባችኃል፤ስለዚህ ፓለቲከኛናችሁ ግን ክርሰቲያ ለመምሰል ትጥራላችሁ ለዚጊዜው የተሳካላችሁ ይመስላችኃል ግን ግን ትርፉችሁ ምን ይሆን ማ/ቅ እያላችሁ ብዙ ትኮንናላችሁ ዝንጀሮ የራስዋን መላጣ ሳታይ በሰው መላጣ ትስቃለች አሎ አበው ሲተርኩ ስለዚህ ራሳችሁን መርምሩ በመልካም ነገር እንጂ በክፉ ነገር አትተባበሩ
    ስማችሁ በመንግሥተ ሰማያት ሰለተፃፈ ደስ ይበላችሁ እንጂ ወንድሞቻችሁ በለተሰደቡ ጊዜ ደስ ይበላችው የሚል ጥቅስ ያለ አስመሰላችሁት በጣም ነው የምታሳዝኑት ሰው በማደናገር አንዳችም ነገር አትጠቀሙም ስለዚህ መልካም ለመሆን ጣሩ:: ሆዳቸው አምላካቸው ክብራቸው በነውራቸው ሐሳባቸው ምድራዊ ለወላጆቻቸው የማይታዘዙ ቅድስና የሌላቸው የማያሰግኑ ክፉዋች ጨካኞች እንደተባለላቸው እንዳትሆኑ በወሬ ሳይሆን በጸሎት ጽኑ አስተያየት ማለት የተሳሰትን ማስተማሪያ እንጂ ሰውን መዝለፊያ አይደለም ክርሰቲያን ደግሞ ሰውን አይዘልፍም
    ክርስቲን ማለት አነጋገሩ አለባበሱ አመጋገቡ ሁለመንው አስተማሪ መሆን አለበት እንጂ አምላኩን የሚያሰድብ መሆን የለበትም ስለዚህ አትሳደቡ ስድብ የዳቢሎስ ነው እንጂ የመንፈስ ቅዱስ አይደለም

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  23. What I understand from tazibiwu is that he is tehadiso by himself. Tehadso teblewu yetekesesut sirachewu afachewu ayetenagere enesun tikil nachewu malet ......weys enantem fund tagegnalachihu

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  24. አይሄ ብሎግ አላማው ምን እንደሆነ አልገባኝም ወንጌል ብታስተምሩበት አይሻል ሁል ጊዜ ሰው ከምትሰድቡበት ጊዜአችሁን አታባክኑ ብዙ የምታስተምሩት አለና፡፡

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  25. አይሄ ብሎግ አላማው ምን እንደሆነ አልገባኝም ወንጌል ብታስተምሩበት አይሻል ሁል ጊዜ ሰው ከምትሰድቡበት ጊዜአችሁን አታባክኑ ብዙ የምታስተምሩት አለና፡፡

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    1. you told them a great thing. but first, they must be returned to the church before teaching

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  26. members of Aba selam, what are you doing and talking. Iknow Geregera Giorgis church, the people and the place where the life of our brathers spent " Dilb". i know it properly. your are talking blindly. if you say those mk members are died due to their bad action on the church/Christ, so what can you say the other people whose life is passed on the same place without acting badly on the church/Christ? don't be talkative with out any evidence. but it is obvious. you hate MK. b/s it works in the right way of the church and you on the opposite like " ለቤተክርስቲያናችን መሻሻል የምንጥር የቤተ ክርስቲያኒቱ ልጆች ግን" this means Tehadeso. Dn Daniel is also right. if you say there is no spreach in the church and the way of the present church is wrong, you are saying Aba Hiriyakos was wrong since the present as well as the past church is owned by the work of St Fathers. so if our St. Fathers can't get heven, we can't get it. so there is no heven where our St. Fathers couldn't get!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  27. even if tehadso straggle to disterb orthodox church, they never be can. b/c god $his mother always keep it
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  28. ማኅበረ ቅዱሳን እናንተ እንደምትሉት የቤተክርስቲያን ራስ የሆነዉ የክርስቶስ ጠላት አይደለም፡፡ ለኢየሱስ ክርስቶስ ክብር የሚሰራ ማኅበር እንጅ፡፡ እንደማታዉቁት ከጽሑፋችሁ ተረዳሁ፡፡ እነማን እንደሆናችሁም አወቅሁ፡፡ እንዲህ ባለዉ አስተምህሮአችሁ ደግሞ ከእናንተ ከዚህ የተለየ ነገር አይጠበቅም፡፡ የጥፋት አዋጅ አታዉጁ፤ እዉነትን ይዘናል ስትሉ አስምህሮአችሁና ሥራችሁ ከእዉነት ዉጭ እንደሆነ በግልጽ ይመሰክራል፡፡ ከቤተክርስቲያን ጠላት ስለማኅበረ ቅዱሳን መልካም ነገር ይነገራል ተብሎ አይጠበቅም፡፡ ተዋህዶ ተዋህዶ ቤተክርስቲያን ቤተክርስቲያን እያላችሁ ያልሆናችሁትን የማስመሰል ሥራችሁን ትታችሁ አጥብቃችሁ አሁንም እዉነትን በቅንነት ፈልጉ፤ ተመለሱ የክፋትና የጥፋቱ ጉዞ ይብቃችሁ፡፡

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  29. በመጀመሪያ ስድብ ከአፋችሁ ሲወጣ ሁሉ ነገር በቃ መሐበረቅዱሳን ማለት የክርስቲያን መሰባሰቢያ ጥሩ አሪያ የሆኑ ስዎችን ያፈራ ከሁሉም በላይ ስለ አውነት የቋሙ ስለሀይማኖታቸው ቀናአይ የሆኑ ናቸው፡፡ እንደ እናንተ ወጥ እረገጥ አይደለም መሠረት የሌላችሁ፡፡ ስለሀይማኖ ወይም ስለመጽሐፍ ቅዱስ ከኢትዮጵያ ሌላ ማንም ሊናገር ሊሰብክ አይችልም፡፡ በእውነት በእውነት ኢትዮጵያ የቅዱሳን አገር ናት፡፡
    የውጭ ሰው አምጥታችሁ ከምትጨፍሩ፣ በደንብ ማንበብ ያስፈልጋል፡፡ የማህበረ ቅዱሳንን ስም ባታነኑ ጥሩ ነው፡፡ መድሐኒዓለም፣ እየሱስ ክርስቶስ፣ የድንግል ልጅ፣ ልቦና ይስጣችሁ፡፡

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  30. በመጀመሪያ ስድብ ከአፋችሁ ሲወጣ ሁሉ ነገር በቃ መሐበረቅዱሳን ማለት የክርስቲያን መሰባሰቢያ ጥሩ አሪያ የሆኑ ስዎችን ያፈራ ከሁሉም በላይ ስለ አውነት የቋሙ ስለሀይማኖታቸው ቀናአይ የሆኑ ናቸው፡፡ እንደ እናንተ ወጥ እረገጥ አይደለም መሠረት የሌላችሁ፡፡ ስለሀይማኖ ወይም ስለመጽሐፍ ቅዱስ ከኢትዮጵያ ሌላ ማንም ሊናገር ሊሰብክ አይችልም፡፡ በእውነት በእውነት ኢትዮጵያ የቅዱሳን አገር ናት፡፡
    የውጭ ሰው አምጥታችሁ ከምትጨፍሩ፣ በደንብ ማንበብ ያስፈልጋል፡፡ የማህበረ ቅዱሳንን ስም ባታነኑ ጥሩ ነው፡፡ መድሐኒዓለም፣ እየሱስ ክርስቶስ፣ የድንግል ልጅ፣ ልቦና ይስጣችሁ፡፡


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  31. arifoch nachu kkkkkkk...........................

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  32. lekas yihie blog yemenafk new.woy aba selama blo meneged.....abahriakosn yetesadebe yebete krstian ziegnet yelewummmmmmmmmm.hizbu embi bilachihu, mesadeb,matlalat hone yenant sira.yikrbachihu blogun ziguitna tetemekuuuuuuuu.

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  33. here lemehonu enemanachu erasachihun meremeru ketita melektachihu yemenafik new enji yetewahido aydelem mahibere kikusanen lekeke yerasachihun emnet meremere argu egziabehar libona yestachihu

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  34. Wendime yetsafkewn anebebikut ergitegna negn chigr alebih Egiziyabher Yiftali . Tera yemender were Titsifalh? Getachin Eyesus Kirstos besime Wengeln lealem sibku enji yalew Mahberekidusan endi ale, Daniel Kibret Endi tenagere ,Tehadiso bezi weta prostentant gelemele eyalk atadenkuren Takitonal lemangnawm Egizyabher libona yistih. dingil Mariyam tirdah Amen.

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  35. ማኅበረ ቅዱሳን እናንተ እንደምትሉት የቤተክርስቲያን ራስ የሆነዉ የክርስቶስ ጠላት አይደለም፡፡ ለኢየሱስ ክርስቶስ ክብር የሚሰራ ማኅበር እንጅ፡፡ እንደማታዉቁት ከጽሑፋችሁ ተረዳሁ፡፡ እነማን እንደሆናችሁም አወቅሁ፡፡ እንዲህ ባለዉ አስተምህሮአችሁ ደግሞ ከእናንተ ከዚህ የተለየ ነገር አይጠበቅም፡፡ የጥፋት አዋጅ አታዉጁ፤ እዉነትን ይዘናል ስትሉ አስምህሮአችሁና ሥራችሁ ከእዉነት ዉጭ እንደሆነ በግልጽ ይመሰክራል፡፡ ከቤተክርስቲያን ጠላት ስለማኅበረ ቅዱሳን መልካም ነገር ይነገራል ተብሎ አይጠበቅም፡፡ ተዋህዶ ተዋህዶ ቤተክርስቲያን ቤተክርስቲያን እያላችሁ ያልሆናችሁትን የማስመሰል ሥራችሁን ትታችሁ አጥብቃችሁ አሁንም እዉነትን በቅንነት ፈልጉ፤ ተመለሱ የክፋትና የጥፋቱ ጉዞ ይብቃችሁ፡፡

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  36. Is "MK" the third synod indisguise? members are freaking cult makers. They poke their noses in every church buisness and go nuts on "fighting Tahedeso" I am just a regular Tewahido orthodox beliver, but i do not want to get intimidated by these fanatic talibans and their leaders.Should there be a need for certain reforms why not? That would not make you a Pente. Egypitian, Syrians and Armenians did some reforms as well with the time and condition. Frankly speaking, it is this vigilantism of "MK" that disinterest the youngs from coming to our church particularly in America. There was this outragious arguments between Dallas St. Michael youth choirs and the Houston DSM youth choirs on using projector and wide screen during Kidase.Ardent members of "MK" among the Dallas Choirs believed that we should not use.It got to this nonesense. What ever Daniel Kibret said was like the addition of the 11 commandment. It got to stop now! Raising 100000 Birr to chase Tahedesos? Would rather spend it on the hungry ones and the destitutes.

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  37. Now we need some one Like Kesis Asterio of Kansas, Dr. Getachew Haile, perhaps Proffesor Mesfin to frequently write and educate us about our Tewahido. I congratulate Mahibere Kidusan on their dedication to restore our old churchs and monastries, but I sincerely dislike their Crusade attitudes towards other who have diiffrent opinion about certan things. They are very quick to mount Pente Lebel on someone.This would not help rather it attributes to keep some away from our church. Reformation in this dynamic world is important without altering the Dogma, otherwise you risk the danger of backwardness.

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  38. They are very quick to mount pente label on someone . From the Anonymous . Let's stand together to tell truth .

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  39. ጓዶች እኔስ ፈራሁ!!

    አንዳችን የለላዉን ሀሳብ ሳኒሬዳ ለተቃውሞ ብቻ ቸኩለን ክርከርና ትዕቢት እንድሁም እልሄኝነት የተሞላበት አንዳችን ለላውን ለማሸነፍ ስንታገል መስመር እንዳንስት እንጠንቀቅ፡፡

    "በትዕቢት ተነፍቶአል አንዳችም አያውቅም፥ ነገር ግን ምርመራን በቃልም መዋጋትን እንደ በሽተኛ ይናፍቃል፤ ከእነዚህም ቅንዓትና ክርክር ስድብም ክፉ አሳብም እርስ በርስ መናደድም ይወጣሉ፡፡..... (1ኛጢሞ. 6፥4)" ትዕቢት በጣም መጥፎና ልብን የሚያደነድን እንዳናስተውል የሚያደርግ ሓጥአት ነው፡፡ እናውቃለን የተሻልን ነን አንበል፡፡ የተሻለና ፍጹም የሆነው ክርስቶስ ኢየሱስ ብቻ ነው፡፡

    "በሃይማኖት ብትኖሩ ራሳችሁን መርምሩ፤ ራሳችሁን ፈትኑ፤.....(2ኛቆሮ.13፥5)" የቆመ የሚመስለው እንዳይወድቅ ይጠንቀቅ።

    ጓዶች let's examine ourselves, let's ask ourselves where we are? let's see ourselves according to the word of GOD. Lets pray the lord and he may reveal us the truth. unless and otherwise we are wasting time, we are pushing our self to hell. GOD said "You find me when you seek me with all your heart." So let's seek for him. Because the truth is with him.

    "Christianity is not religion, Christianity is Christ !!"

    Let God may help us !!

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  40. ለተወደዳችሁ የክርስቶስ ልጆት
    ማህበሩ ያስፈልገኛል ያለውን ገንዘብ ተጠቦና ተጨንቆ ወዲያ ወዲህ እያለ ባለበት ሰአት በመንደር ተመርጦ የተወካዮች ምክርበት አባል ሆኖ የነበረውና አሁን ከነሙሉ ክብሩ ያለመስሎት የሚሰማው ባየቀድስበትም ቀሲስ በላይ መኮነን በመባ በብቃት ሳዮሆን በተወካይነት የአዲስ አበባ ሀገረ ስብከት ዋና ሥራ አስኪያጅ በመሆኑ ይህን ገንዘብ የደብረሊባኖስ ጸባቴ ሆነው ብር 500000.00 ብር በቦታ ክርክር ስም አታተለሉኝ ከሚሉት ጸባቴ ብርሃነ መስቀል ጋር በመነጋገር ለማህበሩ ብር 80000 ሽህ ብር ከበዓታ ለማርያም ያስገባ ሲሆን ለዚህም የጸባተውን ዘመዶች በከፍተኛ ደመወዝ በመቅጠርና አሁን እየተሰራ ካለው የበአታ ት/ቤት እድሳት በጋራ በመጠቀም ላይ ናቸው
    በላይ መኮነን ሙስናን አጠፋለሁ ብሎ በገባበት ማግስት ድግፋን አድርጎ የተነሳው ማህበሩ የነበረ ሲሆን ለዚህም የማህበሩ አባላት ላዘጋጁት /ኮርጀው/ በማምጣት በአዲሰ አበባ አድባራትና ገዳመት ለመጫን አሰብውት በነበረ የመዋቀር ስልጠና ከፍተኛ ገንዘብ መቦጥቦጡ የሚታወቅ ነው ይህሰው አሁን ማህበሪ ስሙን እናዳያነሳ በማሰብ ከአንዳንድ አባቶች አስታርቃለሁ በማለት ከነሱ ጊዜዊ ጋደኝት ይዘዋል ወሬም ከፓትርያርኩ ወደነሱ በመወስድ ላይነው ፡፡
    በሀገረ ስብከቱ ውስጥ ታይቶ የማይታወቅ/ የተጋነነ / የዘረኘርነትና የጉቦ አቀባበል ዘዴ በመሬት አሻሻጥ በነበረው ልመድ በመታገዝ በስልት ተያይዞታል በዚህም ከብዙ አድባራትና ገዳማት በጉብኝት ስም ከብር 20000 እስከ 30000 ሺህ እየተቀበለ ሲህን ቅጥርና ዘውውርም ከሌሎቹ የቀርንጫፍ ኃላፊዎች በመቀማት በእጁ በማስገባትና ያለአግባ የሚመጣውን ገቢ በመካፈል ያስቸገረውን መ/ር ዮናስን በማስወገድ አንድ / ሲበሉ የላኩት የሚመስል / የሌብነትና የጉቦ መንፈስ ግን የሌለው ሽማግሌ አስተዳደር መጠቀሚያ በማድረግ በመዝረፍ ላይ ነው አሁን በዚህ ሰማንት ለእስጢፋኖስ ቤተክርስቲያን አስተዳዳሪን ከአነድ አስተዳደሪ ብር 90000 ሽህ የተቀበለ ሲሆን ካራቆሬ ለሚባል ደብርም ብር 45000 በቅርብ ወዳጁ ተቀብለዎል አታላ በላይ ገንዘብ የበላበትን ሥራ በጉባኤ ለማስፈጸም አቅም የሚሰጠው የሀገረ ስበከቱ የሒሳብ ኃላፊ እንደሆነ በብዛት ይነገራል ይህ ሰው አፉ ሀቅን ያወራል እጁ ለጉቦ በእጅጎ የተዘረጋ ነው በተለያዩ አድባራት አሎቆች ጋር በገንዘብ በመመሳጠር ሙዳዬ ሙጽዋት ተዘረፈ ንብረት ተሰረቀ ብለው ጥቆማ የሚያመጡ ሰራተኞችን አድባራቱ ያለመብታቸው እንዲያግድ በገንዘብ በመስማማት አቤት ቢሉ ሁሉም በእጁ በማድረጉ እንዲያው ያመጥጡትን ጥቆማና ምስጢር መልሶ በመሸጥ ላይ ይገኛል አታላዩ በላይ መኪና እያለው በሀገረ ስብከቱ መኪና ናዝሬትና ደብረዘይት መመላለሱ የቀጠለበት ሲሆን ቅዱስ ፓትርያርኩም ባልጠራ አፉ እየሸነገል ህብረተ ሰብን እያስለቀሰ ይገኛል በተለይ አሁን በቅርቡ አንዳን የማህበሩ አባላት ወደቢሮው በማስመጣት በቢሮ ሰአት ህዝብ እያጉላላ ከመንግስትና ከአባቶች አገናኛችሃለሁ አስቡልኝ በማለት ይገኛል

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  41. ስለእውነት!!
    በእውነተኛው መንገድ የሚጓዝ ያለመበት ቦታ ላይ ለመድረስ እንቅፋት የለውም ባልተፈቀደ መንገድ የሚጓዝ ግን ጉዞው እስከ ለመሆኑ ሰዎች ልንገነዘብ ይገባል የኢየሱስ ክርስቶስ ትምህርት አንዲት ናት እሳው / እውነት/ ናት ከወርቃማ የኢየሱስ ክርሰቶስ ቃላት በጥቂቱ ..የዓይንህን ጉድፍ በቅድሚያ አውጣ፤ ለራሳችሁ የምትጠሉትን በሌላ አታድርጉ ፤ አትስረቅ ፤ አትዋሽ ፤ በሐሰት አትመስከውር ፤የሰውን ገንዘብ አትመኝ ነው ግን የቤተክርስቲያኒትዋ ሰዎች ከልብስ በስተቀር አባት የሚያስብል ቀርቶ ሰው የሚያስብል ሰውነት አጥተዋል መነሻ ሃሳቤ በአዲስ አበባ ሀገረ ስበከት ጽ/ቤት ዋናሥራ አስኪያጅ ቀሲስ በላይ መኮነን በተሰጠ ኃሳብ ላይ ኃሳብ ስላለኝ ነው ሰውዬው አፉና ግብሩ ሲታይ ሌቅል ነው
    1ኛ ከዛሬ ጀምሮ ቅጥር አቁመናል የተበደሉት ግን ለመካስ ተነስተናል በማላት የብዙዎችን የፍትህ ጥማት ድጋፍ ካገኘ በኃላ ከሚያገኙዋት አነስተኛ ደመወዝ ለአለቆቻቸው ድራጎት መስተት ባለመቻላቸው፤ ሙዳዬ ሙጽዋት ሲዘረፍ አይተው ለምን ይዘረፋል በማለታቸው ሐብት ንብረት እንቆጣጠር በማለታቸው ከስራ መደባቸው የተባረሩና የወጣት ለማኝ ሥራ ፈት የሖኑት ብዙ ሰራተኞች ጸሐይ በራን ፍትህ አገኝ ብለው ደስታቸው ሳይ ጨርሱ እነሱ በርላይ ቆመው ዛሬ ነገ እንጀራ አገኛለሁ እያሉ ባሉበት ባላይ መኮነን ያለማንም ሀይ ባይ በቀን በአማካኝ 25 አዳስ ቅጥሮችን ሲቀጥር ዝውውሩም እንደዚሁ ሌብነት ከሌለበት ዘረፋና ቅሚያ ወዳለበት ደብር ለሚዛወሩ ጸሐፊዎች ሒሳብ ክፍሎች ከብር 50000.00 እስከ 80000.00 በመቀበል በቀን 7 እና 8 የቢሮ ሰራተኞች ዝውወር ይፈጽማል ሰርቀው የተባረሩትና ጉዳያቸው በሕግ ላይ ላለው ደግሞ ብር በመቀበል ወደሌላ ደብር ያዛውራቸዋል በዚህ ሥራ ሁለት ጥቅም ያገኛል 1ኛ በሕግ ጉዳዩ ከተያዘ በስርቆት ከተመሰከረለት ስው 2ኛ ከፍተኛ ደመወዝ ተጨምሮለት ወደ ትልወቅ ቦታ ከሚመጣ ሰው እንዲሁም በአዲስ አበባ ገዳማት ቀርቶ በኢትዮጵያ ምድር ሥራ ከሌላቸው ግለሰቦች ገንዘብ በመቀበል ሲሰሩበት ካልነበሩበት ቦታ ከዚህ ወደዚህ ተዛውረሃል በማለት ድብቅ ቅጥር ከመፈጸሙም በላይ ጉባኤ በወሰነው እያለም በመቅጠር ላይነው አሁድና ቅዳሙ ከማይድስባቸው አድባራት በመዞርም ከፍተኛ ገንዘብ እየተቀበለ ሲሆን ለዚህም ፓትርያርኩ ይወዱኛል በማላት በማስፈራራት ጭምር ሲሆን በአጠቃላይ ፍትህ የማይሠጥ ፊትህን ሳይሆን እጅህን የሚያይ ሙጃሌ በመሆኑ እንዳይነቀስም አንዳንድ ተራ ካድሬዎች ከተልእኮአቸው ውች ማስፈራርያ በማድረግ ለዚህ ምሳሌ የየካ ኪዳነ ምህረት ገንዘብ ያዥ ከፍተኛ ገንዘብ በመመዝበርዋ ሒሳብ እንድታስመረምር ጉባአው ቢውስመን የወታደር ውሽማዋን ወደበላይ በማምጣት ሒሳብ ለመመርመር ቢሪ የማሸግ መብት የላችሁም ማለቱ በየትኛው አንቀጽ፤ ከበአታ ለማርያ የሙዳዬ ሙጽዋት ገንዘብ ሲሰርቅ እ ከፈንጅ የተያዘውና በወንጄል ተከሶ ደብሩ ከስራ ያገደውን ሰው ብር 30000.00 በመቀበል ወደሌላ ቦታ መመደቡ በተለያዩ አድባራት ከተሰሩ ስቆች ለመጽሐፍ መሸጫ በሚል ያለጨረታ ለማህበረ ቅዱሳን አባልት በመስጠጥ ለምሳ ዮሀንስ ቤተክርስቲያን፤ ራጉኤል ቤተክርስቲያን ዑራኤል ቤተክርስጢያና ማረጋገጥ ነው ከማህበሩ አባላትና አንዳንድ በገንዘብ በእነሱ በተገዙ አባቶች ርካሽ ድጋፍ ዘረፋውን በዲሞክራሲ ስም ለማቆየት በማሰቡ ተስፋችን ሞተዋል በመሰረቱ ሰዎች በመሆናችን ሆድ ከፊታችን በመኖሩ እንጂ ተስፋችን ኢየሱስ ክርስቶስ ነው ስለሆነም እባካችሁ የሰው መበደል በዚች ቤተክርስቲያን ማብቃት አለበት የምትሉ ግንዛቤ ብትወስዱ በመሰረቱ ግለሰቡ ከሰዋስው ብርሃን ቅዱስ ጳውሎስ መንፈሳዊ ኮሌጅ የተማሪዎች ቀለብ እያበላ ባመስቸገሩ ፤የላሞችን ወተት እየሰረቀ በሚኪና እየጫነ እያወጣ እየሸጠ ለግል ጥቅሙ በማዋሉ እንደ ድመት በወተት ሌብነት የተባረረው ቀሲስ በላይ መኮነን እንኳን ሌባውን እንደ ቅውስጦስ ያሉ የውህ መላእክት እንኳ ሌብነትን ለያስተምር በሚችል አዲስ ሀገረ ስብከት ዋና ስራ አስኪያጅ ተደርጎ መቀመጡስ በየትኛው ልማዱ ከሌብነት ይወጣል ስለሆነም ይህን አፈ እውነት እጀ ሌባ ሰው ላይ መፍትሄ ከእግዚአብሄር እንዲመጣ ጌታ ሆይ ያንተ ፈቃድ ይሁን የሕዝብህን እንባ አብስ በማለት እንጸሊ!!!!!

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